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Typically used with: '''Persuasion'''.
 
Typically used with: '''Persuasion'''.
  
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In short: make friends. Diplomats, lawyers, politicians, and merchants are master Negotiators.  This skill represents the ability to haggle and discuss a topic with another creature, in an attempt to lighten its disposition towards you.
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In short: talk it out. Diplomats, lawyers, politicians, and merchants are master Negotiators.  This Skill represents the ability to haggle, debate, and discuss a topic with another creature in order to change their mind. Negotiate  is used to appeal to someone's sense of reason or goodness — peace negotiations, getting out of trouble, and so forth.  
  
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The Negotiate skill is usually the one to appeal to someone's sense of reason or goodness — peace negotiations, getting out of trouble, and so forth. Appealing to someone's darker nature is the work of the [[Seduce]] skill. In addition, some characters are beyond negotiations, and only seduction or violence will make them listen.
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You may use Negotiate against any creature of an ''elemental'', ''humanoid'', or ''legendary'' Nature. You may also use Negotiate against any ''fabricated'', ''plantlike'', or ''undead'' creature with an Intellect higher than 1.
  
 
{{section|Suggesting|}}
 
{{section|Suggesting|}}
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You can use this Skill to appeal to someone's sense of reason and offer up suggestions. When the situation calls for grace, etiquette, intellectual debate, salesmanship, or formalities, Negotiate can be used to get others to see things ''your'' way. Make a Negotiate check opposed by their [[Mind Control]] check. If your result is highest, they take your suggestions to heart and act accordingly. Your recommendations can't directly endanger them nor force them to do anything against their [[Alignment]], [[Motivation]], or personal obligations and responsibilities. For instance, you could convince a guard to let you through, but you can't convince him to leave his post. This effect lasts as long as you're in their presence for up to an hour.
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You can use this Skill to appeal to someone's sense of reason and offer up suggestions. When the situation calls for grace, etiquette, intellectual debate, salesmanship, or formalities, Negotiate can be used to get others to see things ''your'' way. Make a Negotiate check opposed by their [[Mind Control]] check. If your result is highest, they take your suggestions to heart and act accordingly. Your recommendations can't directly endanger them nor force them to do anything against their [[Alignment]], [[Motivation]], or personal obligations and responsibilities. For instance, you could convince a guard to let you through, but you can't convince him to leave his post.
  
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There's no point in persuading allies into following your suggestions — anyone whose Disposition is ''benign'' or better will help you anyway. Creatures whose Disposition is ''neutral'' or worse will need some convincing, so your argument should be based in logic. In essence, you're convincing them that your point of view is preferable to theirs. Arbiters, mediators, hostage negotiators, merchants, diplomats, and politicians would all do well to use Negotiate in this manner.
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There's no point in persuading allies into following your suggestions — anyone whose [[Disposition]] is ''benign'' or better will help you anyway. Creatures whose Disposition is ''neutral'' or worse will need some convincing, so your argument should be based in logic. In essence, you're persuading them that your point of view is preferable to theirs. Each attempt generally takes a few minutes.
  
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{{section|Difficulty|There is no set DL for negotiate checks, as they are opposed between two people. The difference from the roll determines a character's new disposition. If the target gets the bigger roll, its mood is worsened.  If the character performing the check gets a higher roll, the target's mood is improved.}}
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In combat, you can suggest that your opponent surrenders, holds their fire, or lets you go. This action takes 4 AP. See the "[[Diplomacy in combat|Diplomacy]]" entry in the ''Socializing'' section of ''[[Book:Combat|Chapter 10: Combat]]''.
  
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! Roll Difference !! Disposition
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While [[Seduce]] and [[Perform]] can be used to improve another creature's Disposition toward yourself, Negotiate can be used to improve another creature's Disposition toward someone else. It's even possible to reconcile the conflict between bitter enemies. To improve a creature's Disposition toward another creature, make a Negotiate check. They make a [[Discern]] check. If your result is higher, you may improve their Disposition. For each 5 points of difference, you improve the creature's Disposition towards any creature you choose by one level. If your check is [[Critical Failure]], you actually worsen their Disposition by one level. You can only attempt this once per day per creature. Each attempt generally takes a few minutes.
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{{section|Haggling|}}
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: An enamored creature exists to bring you happiness. It would probably sacrifice itself if it could bring you an ounce of safety.
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"This looks defective. I'll take it off your hands for a discount." Using Negotiate, a character can attempt to haggle with a merchant for several minutes in order to purchase goods or services at a lower cost. Make opposed Negotiate checks. If the buyer's result is highest, the difference between the rolls multiplied by two is the percentage offered as a discount.
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: A friendly creature will go out of its way to give you aid.  Sometimes, it will help you at dire consequences to itself.
 
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: A benign creature is amicable and pleasant to you, and will lend aid, but won't help in any way that overly inconveniences it.
 
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: A neutral creature has no disposition towards you; it doesn't wish you harm, nor does it wish to help you.
 
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: A malign creature generally wishes you ill will, but won't attack you without provocation.
 
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: A hostile creature will go out of its way to harm you.  In fact, it will most likely disregard its own safety to bring you pain.
 
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: A hateful creature has one purpose in life: to end yours. It is almost a certainty that it will put its own life in danger to kill you.
 
  
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A character can roll this check more than once to improve another's mood consecutively.  After a certain point, however, some folks may refuse to listen to any more banter.  Attempting to Negotiate with a target that has reached this point (outside of combat) will be sure to automatically reduce their mood one step.  When both parties are at their leisure to present arguments and reason them out, the negotiation process could take a minute or more each time (as in the example of bartering with a merchant).  During combat, attempting to use Negotiate as Diplomacy only takes 4 AP since decisions are being made at breakneck speed.
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{{example|Haggling Example|Phineas and a merchant are discussing the price for a bound tome.
  
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Attempting to Negotiate with some kind of incentive for the other party, for instance money or release of hostages, provides a situational bonus to the Negotiate check.
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Phineas rolls a 26 for Negotiate. The GM doesn't have stats for the merchant, but assumes a result of 15. The difference in the results is 11.
  
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=====Haggling=====
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The merchant offers a 22% discount to purchase the item. The GM pulls out her calculator.}}
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Using Negotiate, a character can attempt to haggle with a merchant in order to get goods or services at a lower cost.  The character can make a Negotiate check against a set DL.  If the GM has stats for a particular shopkeeper, opposed rolls can be arranged as well.  The character has to state what kind of a discount is desired.  If the roll is failed, no discount is offered. The maximum price goods can be discounted is 50%.  Period.
 
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! Example !! DL
 
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| "Give me a break, buddy.  I'm only a little short." (5% off)
 
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| "Fifty?  It's an outrage!  A scandal!  An insult!  Forty five, on the other hand, would be a deal." (10%) 
 
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| "I saw this over at the market for half as much.  I'd settle for a split-difference if I didn't have to walk all the way back over there…" (25% off)
 
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| "This looks defective.  I'll take it off your hands for half-off." (50% off)
 
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{{section|Opposed Rolls|Negotiate attempts are always opposed by [[Discern]]}}
 
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{{section|Time|Each Negotiate check takes a minute or more (GM's call).}}
 
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{{section|Retry|Diplomatic Negotiate attempts can be retried, but each occurrence takes time.  In the case of haggling with merchants, Negotiate checks cannot be retried.}}
 
  
 
[[Category:Skills]]
 
[[Category:Skills]]

Latest revision as of 11:34, 18 July 2019

Typically used with: Persuasion.

In short: talk it out. Diplomats, lawyers, politicians, and merchants are master Negotiators. This Skill represents the ability to haggle, debate, and discuss a topic with another creature in order to change their mind. Negotiate is used to appeal to someone's sense of reason or goodness — peace negotiations, getting out of trouble, and so forth.

You may use Negotiate against any creature of an elemental, humanoid, or legendary Nature. You may also use Negotiate against any fabricated, plantlike, or undead creature with an Intellect higher than 1.

Suggesting

You can use this Skill to appeal to someone's sense of reason and offer up suggestions. When the situation calls for grace, etiquette, intellectual debate, salesmanship, or formalities, Negotiate can be used to get others to see things your way. Make a Negotiate check opposed by their Mind Control check. If your result is highest, they take your suggestions to heart and act accordingly. Your recommendations can't directly endanger them nor force them to do anything against their Alignment, Motivation, or personal obligations and responsibilities. For instance, you could convince a guard to let you through, but you can't convince him to leave his post.

There's no point in persuading allies into following your suggestions — anyone whose Disposition is benign or better will help you anyway. Creatures whose Disposition is neutral or worse will need some convincing, so your argument should be based in logic. In essence, you're persuading them that your point of view is preferable to theirs. Each attempt generally takes a few minutes.

In combat, you can suggest that your opponent surrenders, holds their fire, or lets you go. This action takes 4 AP. See the "Diplomacy" entry in the Socializing section of Chapter 10: Combat.

Interceding

While Seduce and Perform can be used to improve another creature's Disposition toward yourself, Negotiate can be used to improve another creature's Disposition toward someone else. It's even possible to reconcile the conflict between bitter enemies. To improve a creature's Disposition toward another creature, make a Negotiate check. They make a Discern check. If your result is higher, you may improve their Disposition. For each 5 points of difference, you improve the creature's Disposition towards any creature you choose by one level. If your check is Critical Failure, you actually worsen their Disposition by one level. You can only attempt this once per day per creature. Each attempt generally takes a few minutes.

Haggling

"This looks defective. I'll take it off your hands for a discount." Using Negotiate, a character can attempt to haggle with a merchant for several minutes in order to purchase goods or services at a lower cost. Make opposed Negotiate checks. If the buyer's result is highest, the difference between the rolls multiplied by two is the percentage offered as a discount.

Haggling Example
Phineas and a merchant are discussing the price for a bound tome.

Phineas rolls a 26 for Negotiate. The GM doesn't have stats for the merchant, but assumes a result of 15. The difference in the results is 11.

The merchant offers a 22% discount to purchase the item. The GM pulls out her calculator.

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